In the Grand Scheme Of Fitness With Justin and Ethan

Beyond the Gym: Discovering Your Path to Fitness

• Justin Schollard • Season 2 • Episode 60

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We explore how fitness extends far beyond traditional gym workouts and how finding activities you genuinely enjoy is the key to building lasting healthy habits.

• Traditional gym workouts aren't the only path to fitness – try group sports, martial arts, dancing, or recreational activities
• Being physically active leads to feeling better, living longer, and improved quality of life 
• As adults, we must deliberately create change in our lives rather than repeating the same routines
• Activities combining physical movement, skill acquisition, and social connection provide triple benefits
• Recreational activities often serve as gateways to more structured exercise and improved fitness
• Finding enjoyment in movement creates intrinsic motivation that makes consistency effortless
• Sport-specific training can enhance performance in activities you already enjoy
• Investment in health (whether time, money or effort) pays dividends across all areas of life
• Lowering barriers to entry is crucial – start with anything that gets you moving
• Rediscover the concept of play as an adult to make fitness sustainable and enjoyable


Speaker 1:

Everyone wants to be successful, everyone wants to have good relationships, everyone wants to be healthy, but when it comes to the health stuff, it's like meh. Tomorrow we have to decide how we create change in our life, because change isn't just going to happen to us. You know, like we've already finished school, we've already probably settled into our career and guess what?

Speaker 1:

Like this is it now okay episode 60 of in the grand scheme of fitness with, uh, your host, justin scollard, and and ethan walter.

Speaker 1:

So today, guys, to celebrate episode 60, we're gonna do a general overview of what fitness means specifically to you as the individual, because I think we have this idea of fitness it's like co-branded with gyms and heavy weights and like running on a treadmill and like just grinding and, to be honest, like that is a version of it, but it's not the only version.

Speaker 1:

So today we want to just talk about different ways and modalities that one can just start through group sports, weekend warrior kind of stuff. Maybe you want to do a martial arts class, maybe you want to get into like circus or acrobatics or hacky sack or yoga, like there are so many ways to start that don't involve like the traditional weight training that we all kind of bench press, yeah, associate with fitness, and so we just want to like just explore those options, talk about the values of them and then maybe even using them as a tripwire, so to speak, or as a transition or a gateway to actually get in and do some strength training, which, of course, is a bench which, of course, is all of our secret motive.

Speaker 1:

All we want you to do is just eat protein and lift weights. But to get you there, we might, uh, try to spellbound you with the idea that you can do anything else. But, all jokes aside, you actually can, right? I mean, that's the whole point of this episode.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, I mean. I think it just is to remind her that, like our best lives are lived when we are physically active. It's just, there's no way around it. You're going to feel better, you're going to live longer. It's just the way to go and you know the appeal of being in la fitness, or 24-hour fitness, or bad you know, I don't know what is a planet fitness, any type of fitness any type of gym.

Speaker 1:

Any type of gym?

Speaker 2:

yeah, it just might not be that appealing, and, and so I think sure isn't for me, that's for I.

Speaker 1:

I literally I walked into tanya ghost equinox, big global gym, it sounds fancy trust me, it's, it's really not, it's just normal.

Speaker 1:

Like it's more expensive, it's the same shit, like it really is. But point is is it's a big meat market, it's just a warehouse. You walk in and it's just like, oh my God, yeah, especially if you go in like after hours, after work. And for me mean, I love lifting weights, I just I just have a little squat rack and some dumbbells at home, but like that, that's that works for me, but like oh, anyway.

Speaker 2:

So point is is that it doesn't need to be that, yeah, I think it's just get your body moving in some way, yeah, and in the end, like, being consistent is, as we've said many times, the most important thing to actually get the physiological benefits. And I think the the idea is like that there are many ways to do it and I think, when you are having fun, when there's recreation or play involved, as we were just talking about beforehand, um skill acquisition, it's amusing, it's it's it's entertaining, it's engaging, it's engaging and I think if you can find like a sport, a modality, an activity that engages you and pulls you in, so that you are simply just moving and being physically active or getting some type of fitness in your life, then that's the most important thing.

Speaker 1:

And I also, like there's just so much benefit to group sports of some kind like, or just really any, any like recreation sports. So, like we're all adults, we're all, we're all, everyone listening. This show is probably somewhere between 25 and 50 years old. You know, it's like we're just in it now. We're just in this like thick of it of adulthood that we have to decide how we create change in our life. Because, because change isn't just going to happen to us, you know, like we've already finished school, we've already probably settled into our career and guess what? Like this is it now? And steady state, you know, and if we want to, um, you know, introduce anything novel, like it's, it's a choice we have to make, and I think that that is the trap is that we, we don't make that choice and we just keep repeating the same day over and over and over again, and I think that leads to depression. It leads to some sort of, like you know, dementia of some kind or brain, it's true.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no the repetitiveness of the same day, kind of lived over and over again.

Speaker 2:

It just kills our brain you know Absolutely, you're not creating any neural pathways or anything. I mean, there's like this old guy who's all about just like skill acquisition, but just knickknack, paddywhackack, learn something new and very particular and like as soon as he acquires the skill he moves on.

Speaker 2:

So it's all this like just weird thing, like I'll have like a big coffee tin and like stand on one foot on like a balancing block and like have a ball and throw the ball into the coffee tin, and we could do that 10 times, I'm you know, and it's like he and he like does like tightrope walking and just all these like odd, like almost like juggling, just things that like force the mind muscle connection yeah, so his whole thing is because he's old, he's just, like you know, basically preventing his, his aging, as much as he can neurologically and obviously physically too, but um, just he, just he got addicted.

Speaker 2:

It's almost like he went so niche. It's very particular and weird, but it's that exact thing where it's just you know all these connections exactly.

Speaker 1:

You have to just be acquiring that skill and I think when you do tie in the mental and physical, like so sitting there and like playing chess or learning an instrument or you know whatever, like obviously immense value in that. But that's like brain health and that's that's great little little beyond our scope as far as this show is concerned. But I mean, there's certainly so much relative, there's so much um, that's related to that. Yeah, but when you tie in the physical and the mental, so you know, like I've I am officially obsessed with golf now and it's not the most intense sport, but I'll tell you, you know, like after you play 18 you're pretty drained and after you go hit 100 balls of the range like I broke a little sweat. You know like it's. But it's such a nuanced thing that, whether it be, you know um, even even just like hacky-sacking or or even like learning to juggle.

Speaker 2:

I mean, to me it's like anything is going to be better than nothing and if you get outside or even just moving your arms like no, is juggling going to be some intense workout equivalent? No, but at the same time, at least you're moving. Yeah, you know. And in some cascade of anything to get you moving, I think is what it's about Totally. You know, when we get addicted to something, it just pulls us in and next thing, you know, we want more inherently. And it's not this like battle of like I need to go to the gym and I don't really want to, especially when you start seeing improvement.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you kind of get the itch to, especially when you start seeing improvement.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you kind of get the itch, yeah, and I think that, like with with exercise, a classic exercise, weight training or boot camps, whatever, like you can kind of do that forever and just always, just feel like shit and really never notice a big change in your body you know, or just always are healthier.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, but like you're not seeing the, the change where I think, when you if, if you have like a natural allergy to like going to a gym or training in that kind of classic way, giving yourself permission to join a soccer team or play some tennis with your friends or, you know, play some volleyball, go join an adult volleyball league, like level one for beginners what you're doing essentially is like you're kind of checking the health box, like we already talked about, but like you get good, quick, no-transcript, a perfect drive that you were slicing a month ago and you're like, ooh, I'm onto something now and you want to do more and more and more of it.

Speaker 1:

It kind of gets you on the trail and I think there's a lot of power in that and if that's the gateway that just gets you moving, the win-win is you get all the brain health stuff. You're acquiring a skill, your brain's getting hit with dopamine and serotonin and you're acquiring a skill and you're learning and you're forging these new networks but then also getting out and moving your body, which of course we know is the best thing you can do for everything. Basically.

Speaker 2:

Just for everything, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, I'm a big, big fan of that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and there's a little plunge, I think, or a little leap of faith into trying something new. But I think that's also what makes life interesting. I mean I love that you brought up partner dancing. I mean there's so many things you can do and there's also solo activities, like even if you just were to get a bike and go ride around on the street, you know you're still getting outside getting your heart rate up.

Speaker 2:

You know it's just going to be so good for you to just get some type of hobby or activity in your life that gets you moving and I think just you know it kind of goes back. It's like always about, like you know, there's this degree of personal responsibility, right, you have to take on some personal responsibility in order to take that next level of evolution in your life. So, whether it's counting your calories or doing, you know, hand measurements for food, for your composition.

Speaker 1:

Wearing yourself every morning.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's something you have to take on up every morning. Yeah, there's something you have to take on and I think there's a degree of also a personal responsibility of enriching, enriching your life with activities and doing something fresh and doing something new.

Speaker 2:

And even if you find something that's your primary passion, that you do forever, so be it. Where you keep willing to, to kind of put yourself out there a little bit and try something new, whether it's a solo activity, whether it's a group activity, totally you know. I think it's just life's going to be so much better you know also too.

Speaker 1:

Now that I'm thinking about this, I'm listening to you talk and I'm like, okay, this is. I think I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that, like as an adult, some sort of like group sport or you know whatever, maybe it's not a sport in the classical sense, but maybe like dance, whatever. It checks all the major boxes. Number one you get the physical stuff done. So that's important. You need to take a salsa class, you. You meet, you meet up with the, your normal buddies, and play 18.

Speaker 2:

You go play pickup basketball, whatever name your thing pickleball of pickleball, yeah, yeah, yeah, let us not forget pickleball yeah, volleyball, yeah, all these good things, right.

Speaker 1:

So that checks the physical box, which you know is important. But then like, because it is a skill now. Now there's the mental aspect of it, where your brain's going to work, learning this skill, and you're like processing that. What did it go wrong? What could I do better? You're on youtube watching, like how do I get better at this thing? And you're learning. You're learning now. But then also the third one is the community aspect. You know the social element of it where it's just so important as adults, because we all know it's hard to make friends. As we get older, right, we tend to get solid off, especially young men. I mean, tanya's a genius at making friends. She has.

Speaker 1:

I bet you there's at least 30 people who think tanya's her best friend right right, that's hilarious, like she's so good and I have, I, I don't, I mean I'm, I'm, but I'm also more okay with it than she is. But anyways, point is, is that like especially for young men, but for women too, I'm sure like you go and just join like a beginner's volleyball class or league and all of a sudden you're like on a team of six of the strangers?

Speaker 2:

guess what?

Speaker 1:

within like three weeks? You're high-fiving, you're grabbing a beer afterwards, you're hey, you want to meet up on saturday and practice? Yeah, you got a little whatsapp group going. It's like that is purely of your own creation, and so you get the fitness of running around and trying something new and getting challenged and being comfortable. You get the mental stuff of learning skill.

Speaker 1:

Then you get the social and community thing where, where you've now even if they're not like best friends necessarily, but like it's a group that you get to like go hang with and like laugh and like do things with, and that's massive absolutely, especially if you live in an urban area.

Speaker 2:

There's everything you know.

Speaker 1:

So, even if it's a solo activity like juggling.

Speaker 2:

There are juggling meetups and flow arts meetups, and even if it's not necessarily a team sport or partner dancing, even if it's something that you could do alone in your living room, there is still a social component that's available. You know we're like, oh, try this move, or just, you know, keep your palm. You know it's, it's, it's, there's a lot, there's a lot out there, and I think life will just be much more rewarding when we start to engage with something Totally, be willing to try Totally. And then I think you know it's like, because obviously you have to resist and strain, otherwise, otherwise why are you listening to this fucking show? You're a failure. No, but I do think that, like you know, taking it up a notch is that concerted exercise in some form. In some form, some way, whether it's a boot camp or HIIT or bodybuilding or powerlifting lifting that I do think training and exercise specifically is of tremendous value.

Speaker 2:

even more so and even if it's just for longevity and fighting off metabolic diseases and just again, quality of life is going to go up the more fit you are. And I think that what can happen is sometimes you get into these things and maybe you notice that you get winded really quickly or that you know your shoulders giving out. You got no power.

Speaker 1:

You got no power.

Speaker 2:

when you're trying to jump, you're trying to catch a wave and you just your shoulders are so burned that you can't get into the crest, you know, and things like that. And so then maybe all of a sudden, you're just like, oh, now that I'm living a more active lifestyle, let's say because I won't necessarily say that these things we're naming are exercise per se, depending on what you choose, maybe you might be like you know what I want? To be more fit. I want to be better at this. The way to do that is going to just be more fit. I'm becoming more aware of my body. Body, oh, the more I move, the better I feel. Right, oh, wait a second. Totally it'd be worth it to go out on a jog, or maybe it'd be worth it to put on a yoga class on youtube and do some yoga in my living room or do a little body weight workout so, in other words, it can just be a gateway, like and like we were, talking about is like so maybe like it's like the devil's lettuce

Speaker 1:

devil's lettuce you know what I mean but maybe it's like the the first thing that you think of when you need to get healthy and fit is not going to the gym, but maybe like well, I did play this sport in high school and I always liked it, so maybe I'd like to get back at that wonderful. But then I think what you're saying is like you do that for a minute and you realize there's deficiencies. Now, yeah, it's like whoa, everything hurts, you know, let's just use like any example, like, uh, jiu-jitsu right, so I've been doing jiu-jitsu recently. It's like, or volleyball right. It's like, we'll use the examples that I do. Yeah, well, I mean, I gotta speak to what I know but, but it.

Speaker 1:

But it translates to everything. Maybe you're basketball or tennis or whatever, but it's like you know, if you do the thing and you start the you know beginner league and you go and you're like man, I get, like you say, I get gas. My legs are just like dead wobbly and I just cannot, even, like hardly, hold myself up.

Speaker 1:

Well, then you're thinking like okay, maybe like doing a few sets of lunges each week, you know or or maybe all right, I'm gonna do three sets of 10 goblet squats just to improve my jumping or whatever the case might be whatever it is, hold myself in a plank, a plank position or like oh wow, I'm extra tight.

Speaker 2:

Maybe I'll actually sit and stretch for a little while.

Speaker 1:

And then, next thing you know, now it's like you're using strength training like an athlete would to serve your sport right To serve a purpose, so maybe the strength training in and of itself isn't enough of a motivator.

Speaker 1:

But like you really love your sport, your community now, and like it's of interest to you to improve. So the best way to improve now is to like improve your strength. And so now, all of a sudden, we've used that to like a little bit of a gateway and, you know, a 10 to 20 minute routine a couple times a week. Yeah, might not seem so intimidating, or yeah, because I can't.

Speaker 2:

I mean because it is always going to come back to us encouraging you all to get some type of exercise going well that you know. It'd be weird if we stopped it would be weird if we didn't, you know. But and it's just, and I think it is, and then, and then the ball. You just gain momentum. Then all of a sudden, you're a physically active person, you're you're a health conscious person, and then, all of a sudden, maybe you will start to watch what you eat, because next you know you're counting your macros.

Speaker 2:

You're a little heavy on the court or you know you're going up a hill on a bike is like fuck, this is hard, I don't want this. I want to be able to look up this hill. It's nice up there, you know. It's a good view.

Speaker 1:

I don't want this to be so hard exactly, and so you know, it's like finding what just gets that initial spark of interest going and giving yourself 100% permission to just try it and like there's, and like adulting is honestly just forcing the reality that you want for yourself to happen, because otherwise it's just not. You know, it's just not going to fucking happen, or you know, and it's like we have to really try to create the life that we want for ourselves, and most of us tend to rank being healthy and the top three things that are most important to us, yet it's the one thing that we tend to devote the least amount of time towards achieving. Everyone wants to be successful, everyone wants to have good relationships, everyone wants to be healthy, but when it comes to the health stuff, it's like tomorrow, yeah you know.

Speaker 2:

But it's so crazy because everything else goes to shit. If you're not healthy, I don't care what kind of career you have. I don't care what kind of great family structure you have, or you know, it's like if you're sickly.

Speaker 1:

You only want one thing in life to be healthy, and that's to be healthy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it's it's one of those things that, no matter what it takes to just get some engagement going, and it's even with, like personal training I mean, I have so many of my clients and I know personal training can be expensive and not everybody can afford that but at the same time it's like I have many clients that just know that they won't do it unless they make some type of commitment. And just now, because they choose to train, it's like they're smart enough, they got a good head on their shoulders and they're like I know I need to do this. I don't really want to do it, so I'm going to make myself do it by paying for it and having an appointment and have somebody that I have to show up to and look in the eye. And then it's amazing because then I think most of the time I find my clients, some people are just allergic to exercise, and that's understandable and they do it anyway.

Speaker 2:

But I often find that they look forward to the sessions and it's like they always feel, even if it's arduous and grinding and hard, they always feel. Even if it's arduous and grinding and hard, they always feel better afterwards. And I think you can also. I think there. You know, for me. I try to make the sessions interesting. There's so many ways to move and do stuff Like I trained this one couple and we do animal flow, and so animal flow is just a kind of a coined term for body movements.

Speaker 1:

It's not where you put the mask on and turn the lights off.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, kind of like a furry, yeah, but with movement, like pin the tail on the donkey, kind of thing but it is so much fun and you know so it's basically just human movement patterns that are often done on the floor. Yeah, animal flow is like a coin term with a certain vocabulary, but the movement world is a whole thing. But you know, even just the other day we were playing a game of add-on where it's like, basically one person doesn't move and this is can be done with many modalities and then the second person does that move and then adds a move to it, and then the other person goes back and does those two moves and adds a move and so it's like this little gamification.

Speaker 2:

But you're doing all these.

Speaker 1:

You know, you're kind of being creative, you're moving your body, you're stretching and being active and you know, it's tons of fun and they love it and all of a sudden, like the time melts away, yeah and obviously we did a bunch of strength training and bulgarian split squats that were arduous, yeah, just afterwards. But but you got him in the zone. It was like the warm-up, but also get him in the zone and also get in their mind yeah, and it's so it's.

Speaker 2:

I think there's just you'd be surprised that once, and it's like once you get into things, I think the reward starts to show itself and I think you know. So it's like you know it's. We're kind of like how do you get the foot in the door? How do you get a toe?

Speaker 1:

in the door. How do?

Speaker 1:

you just get a little breeze going, so to get into the gale force wins because I think that's what keeps people from starting, is that in their mind, they have this idea of what it takes. Yeah right, oh well, if I can't get to the gym for an hour, then like I got, or I'm gonna wait until I can get to the gym for an hour, and then a year goes by and it's like still waiting. It's like, well, yeah, I mean, I get, you know, I got kids. I gotta we're gonna work till six. I gotta drive 20 minutes to the gym. I gotta work out for an hour.

Speaker 1:

I gotta park youtube's there yeah, it's like or or you just drop down and give me 20, you know, and like, let that just start. Like, but, like you know, lowering the barrier of entry is what we're talking about. Right, and like to your point, I just want to say real quick, with the clients and it being expensive and stuff, but it's like, yeah, I get it, it's expensive, like to have a trainer. You know it ain't cheap to have like an accountability nutrition coach or trainer. But the thing is, is that that, like, no one will think twice about going out and spending 500 to a thousand bucks a month on a car? Yeah, and that's just the payment. And then you got the insurance, you got the gas. I mean, you know it's probably costing at least a thousand bucks a month to just own a car that, like, for the 99 of the time, just sits in your driveway, but it's like no one.

Speaker 1:

And when we think of fitness, it's like, well, a boot camp's cheap. It's like, well, a boot camp's cheap. It's like, okay, well, do you like going to a boot camp? No, right, well then, who cares what it costs? You're not going to go. But if you did invest $100 or $200, depending, you know, if you live in a smaller city in the Midwest, maybe it's $50. If you live in a big major city, maybe it's closer to $200 for a trainer. But you but you're probably making more if you live in a big city.

Speaker 2:

So it balances out, yeah, but like, yeah, so what?

Speaker 1:

so that's maybe what 800 000 bucks a month that's a lot of money, but it's your health, yeah, and, like we said earlier, insurmountable. Like to have that accountability, to have that like. You know, that person in your corner that that you can, you know, talk about your life with and your nutrition with and your fitness with, and they can help you think of other ways to just move your body. Going for walks like think creatively, I mean, does that not improve your productivity? Will that not make you, uh, less depressed and more more likely to like be adventurous and maybe ask for a bigger promotion or try a new career out?

Speaker 1:

or ask somebody out, yeah ask somebody out, find a potential partner, because you're, you know you're, you're feeling better about yourself, like there's so much intangible benefit to investing in your fitness and that's like that's relative. It could that that might mean a. A ten dollar app to somebody might be a big deal, or that might mean a you know, a thousand dollars a month in a trainer for the next person. But like, whatever that is, that is, this is your health we're talking about and lower the barrier of entry, bite the bullet, get uncomfortable, like sign up for a sports team, go ride your bike, like, whatever it takes to just get out of the inertia of not doing anything.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, is really the big takeaway, I think absolutely and I think you know, because it's like again, it's like you might notice that your shoulder hurts from again, like surfing, and so now it's like you got to go into the gym and learn, or learn a rehabilitation or just get stronger. Like, yeah, okay, like I'm weak on the board, so if I start doing some push-ups and some body weight rows or something, you're out, you're inevitably going to just doing it translate to your sport.

Speaker 2:

It's just going to translate and you know it's funny even that in that same couple I trained, one of them just started playing pickleball. Of course, of course I mean, pickleball is fun but, you know, he's, he's totally getting addicted, he's playing and he's playing for hours. And you know, obviously he's that much better off because of all the training he's been doing. And now he's even being more active, you know so obviously he trains they train twice a week with me but now he's being even more active, he's, he's adopting that active lifestyle he's being even healthier.

Speaker 2:

He's having fun, he's meeting new people, he's getting outside. Yeah, you know so it's like this cascade that can happen. That can go all the way up to like doing sports, specific resistance training. You know you might get so addicted to a sport like golf, for example. I don't know what kind of losers play golf, but people, people, people who turn 40, you got two options.

Speaker 1:

You can. You can become like a history buff or you can play golf. In my case, both. So just biographies of, like George Washington, washington, and then golf and I'm like, damn, how did I turn like what happened to me but I love it but it's crazy but, but no.

Speaker 2:

But you might get into the gym and since golf is such a rotational sport I mean most sport involves rotation you might get into the gym and really train specific rotational movements standing cable rotations and things that are there just to feed the sport really gets totally incorporating in that kit.

Speaker 1:

I've totally incorporated. I never used to do this um with my core training, but as of late I've been. I have a little pulley system here but bands, whatever, but I'm absolutely doing the rotational stuff now. So I'm just like, well, you rotate both ways, but it's the force production is one directional and that asymmetry could lead to injury in the future, and so it's like just making sure that both sides are balanced is now like top of mind.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's also you're going to be able to hit the ball harder. You're going to have more power Totally You're going to be less fatigued, less risk of injury, all the things.

Speaker 1:

But I think that, like me, even you know 25 years in the game now of of of training my body because of this new sport. It made me think about new exercises to incorporate, to enhance the sport.

Speaker 2:

Right Broke you out of your mold as somebody who does resistance training all the time. Now even now. Even resistance training is getting fresh, Right.

Speaker 1:

It's like, Ooh, let me let me, you know, do three sets from like top down and three sets from, like you know, parallel rotations on both sides, and it's like, oh, I never used to do that and you know, now I'm like getting like this, like serrated sort of soreness in my rib cage that I hadn't had in a long time. And like the point is is that the sport is what inspired that new change, and I think that's the hypothesis of this episode is to be like you can start something like that.

Speaker 1:

that has nothing to do with exercise, necessarily, or training your body with weights, but then because you're like, oh, I want to get better at this.

Speaker 2:

Now you're like researching.

Speaker 1:

What are some good exercises for people who do this sport?

Speaker 2:

right.

Speaker 1:

And all of a sudden, you like get the ball rolling.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it feeds this momentum and then, all of a sudden, you are just a fit person and you look great, you feel great, you know because you have resistance to train people.

Speaker 1:

Don't get over it, yeah yeah, so, so, anyways, guys, that's the big message here get get up there and do something, just to do something do anything.

Speaker 2:

Try to find something that's fun.

Speaker 1:

I think that's the biggest like whatever like play is so enjoyable.

Speaker 2:

We're we. We lose our little kids. We we think play is stupid and it's not serious. We have to be so serious all the time and we can't laugh and have fun and enjoy things and learn a new skill.

Speaker 1:

Next thing you know you're doing a monster, Grumpy old curmudgeons that are listening to George Washington documentaries. And they're just throwing their golf clubs off a cliff. Yeah, it's like you know what am I doing out here?

Speaker 2:

No, but I think a little joy goes a long way. And I think just finding something that you enjoy is probably the best gateway to being physically active.

Speaker 1:

Totally.

Speaker 2:

And the cascade that can happen after that is limitless.

Speaker 1:

Agreed, there you guys go. Episode 60. Big 6-0. In the name of fitness, grand scheme of it, grand scheme of it, grand scheme of it, in the grand scheme of fitness, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know. You know what I meant.

Speaker 1:

So there you go, guys. We'll see you all next time for episode 61. Peace out.

Speaker 2:

Peace.