In the Grand Scheme Of Fitness With Justin and Ethan
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In the Grand Scheme Of Fitness With Justin and Ethan
Unraveling the Carnivore Diet: Separating Fact from Fad in the Quest for Health
Could the carnivore diet be the key to better health, or is it just another passing trend that oversimplifies nutrition? Join us as we unravel the truth behind this controversial eating style, exploring both its allure and potential dangers. We'll share personal experiences and insights into how this diet impacts everything from weight and skin to cholesterol levels, helping to separate fact from fiction in the noisy world of diet fads.
As we journey through the carnivore craze, we'll examine why this diet has gained mainstream popularity and how it provides a sense of belonging to those transitioning from processed foods. You'll hear about the pragmatic approaches some take, like incorporating keto-friendly foods, and the tribal appeal that makes this diet so enticing. However, we challenge the idea of labeling vegetables as toxic and stress the need for a balanced view on nutrition, urging listeners to make informed choices rather than blindly following trends.
Navigating the complex landscape of dietary changes can be daunting, especially when faced with conflicting information about fiber and micronutrients. With insights from both personal and scientific perspectives, we'll highlight the risks associated with restrictive diets like carnivore, questioning their sustainability and potential long-term health impacts. Emphasizing the benefits of dietary fiber and the importance of trusting science over anecdotes, we aim to equip you with the knowledge needed to make healthier dietary decisions.
Too much meat can kill you. You go on carnivore. All of a sudden you do feel better, you're losing weight, maybe your skin clears up, maybe you're sleeping better. Then you go and get a blood test. The doctor's like well, so your A1Cs are down, your blood sugar levels are down, but your cholesterol is through the roof. If a diet has a name run, mentorship is important. But today we're gonna be chatting a little bit, but everyone's just in it. Right now they're just doing the fucking carnivore thing.
Speaker 2:It is very, very popular. It is crazy.
Speaker 1:Welcome to episode 49 of Coach's Corner with Justin and Ethan. I am Coach Justin and I am Coach Ethan. And today, folks, we're going to just share our two cents on the carnivore diet. The carnivore diet is all the rage these days. Before we get into that, in case you don't know who we are, let's introduce ourselves. We are essentially just your trainers. For the last 20 years, we've been doing everything from. You know we've owned gyms together. We work with people one-to-one with nutrition, coaching, lifestyle overhaul. Currently, ethan has a studio, a gym, in West Hollywood, california. I have a business online where we help people get organized with their nutrition. You know we've been doing this for a long time, so we've come together to make this show to you know, help distill some of the noise out there and give you guys a little bit more clarity and, hopefully, information. You can make better decisions from on, simplifying your path to fitness, whatever that end goal may be for you. But that's what Coach's Corner is all about.
Speaker 2:That's right. Knowledge is power, knowledge is power. Guys, train the fat.
Speaker 1:Mentorship is important. It's like everything that we're saying you guys could all learn on your own in the next three to five years. Yeah, or you can invest, you can hire someone like us. This isn't a sales pitch. I don't care if you work with me or not, you know actually I do click the link. But I'm kidding. But uh, I don't care if you click the link in the bio and sign up for my free. No, I'm kidding, I don't have that. But like there is no link, there is no.
Speaker 2:That's how you know.
Speaker 1:We have not put any sort of links or clicks or anything in any of this stuff. We don't do any calls to action. We're literally just here to build an audience and to build trust with you guys and who knows, maybe in the future we'll create some sort of a program together, but for now this is coming together and truly just um. You know, provide some value to you guys. But today we're gonna be chatting a little bit about the carnivore diet and if you listen to our keto episode, there might be some crossover there. Everyone's just in it right now. They're just doing the fucking carnivore thing.
Speaker 2:It is very, very popular.
Speaker 1:It is crazy you know what all great fad diets have in common? What's that? A catchy name. Catchy name caveman diet.
Speaker 2:Caveman carnivore diet carnivore carnivore has such a like. Oh, the carnivore carnivore.
Speaker 1:I want to be a connotation of the animal, the keto growling even though, like, keto is just short for ketogenic, which is a state that you are in after not having any glucose in your body for a while, but still, keto is just kind of it's snappy, it's crisp, it just kind of rolls off the tongue, you know. Of course I'm keto, but you know, but that's the thing. So an old mentor of mine said if a diet has a name run, like if there's a name to it, just don't do it.
Speaker 2:Paleo.
Speaker 1:No, like if there's a name to it, just don't, don't do it.
Speaker 2:Paleo, no, paleolithic I mean yeah of all of them.
Speaker 1:Actually, I think paleo, because you got tubers and fruits and veggies and you're just, you're just avoiding grain which I don't actually think anything wrong with grain but from just like general guidelines and just eating whole foods and single ingredient foods.
Speaker 2:It's, it's pretty pretty.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hard to get fat if you're just eating lean proteins you're gonna be, if you, if you truly do paleo you're gonna be healthy. There's nothing wrong with that. I have no beef with that, no pun intended. Paleocom out ethan wolf yeah, slap forward.
Speaker 1:Slash ethan wolf, get 15 off your first order but uh, carnivore diet, though this one's, this one one's really causing quite the stir in the fitness community because there are some very obvious like if you know anything about nutrition, meaning that you're not just a zealot or you haven't just hitched your wagon onto some like dogma, but you've actually like taken the time to look at some studies and follow the evidence and the data and actually read clinical trials and practice, perhaps on your own or with other clients. Like, if you've gone down that route, you're going to have some objections with carnivore.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:If you're just more of like a sensationalist, like more dogmatic, and that all sounds very negative. But you know it's like it'd be hard to be a very like pragmatic practitioner and still advocate for carnivore generally fully I would agree.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean there's just so many things.
Speaker 1:There's just there's just so many holes in it, but yet it's catchy and it's mainstream, and that's what people are doing.
Speaker 2:People lose weight on it, they feel good on it I think that's the thing you know there, so it's not to say it's not effective, for reasons that are any other eating style that would have you lose weight would be effective, you know, and so I think, like one of the things I think because, like, I belong to, purposely belong to, like a facebook carnivore page, just to you know, I like to hang out with your friends.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my friends build a little community see if I can get some more subscribers to paleo slash for now. But, um, just to kind of see what people are eating and see what the general like temperature of the room is, and like I'll go in the comments off a post sometimes and just see what people one. It's very interesting is that a lot of people eat avocado and there's this huge thing, yeah, where people are like you're not fucking carnivore but they're really just doing keto in a sense, in that capacity.
Speaker 2:But what I would say is that I think the foods that people are allowed to eat on carnivore which is beef, steak, eggs, bacon, cheese are generally things that people like to eat, right, like most americans at least, will be happy to eat a steak and some eggs and some bacon and some sour cream it's like the anti-health food diet yeah and so, but at the same time they are, in a lot of way, whole, whole foods, and so if you've been going and eating frozen pizzas and getting fast food and doing things of that nature and then all of a sudden you actually start to participate with your own food, cook your own food and essentially cook single ingredient foods outside of maybe, like cheese, but even then I think one of the reasons that people take a good turn is because there's like the carrot at the end of the stick of eating these delicious foods Like, oh, I get to eat a steak for dinner and for breakfast, and eggs all the time with cheese on them.
Speaker 2:Oh, that sounds amazing. And then that is what actually motivates them to switch off of a high processed diet or a diet that's might just not be balanced and maybe full of sugar and sodas and candy or any all these things. So it's like this huge sweep where you're probably, for most people, eliminating a lot of bad foods for a typical american diet, introducing a lot of single ingredient foods that are very tasty, and it's so dogmatic that you actually stick with it, and so I think that's kind of. For me, one of the things I see is the appeal to carnivore and why it works for people is because it's this culture, so you buy in and that means you're consistent, part of a tribe. Part of a tribe, it's foods I love to eat. I get to eat bacon and eggs all the time it eliminates the burden of choice 100%.
Speaker 2:You don't got to think very hard and then, fundamentally, most likely you'll put yourself in some type of caloric restriction, so you end up losing weight. You do kind of probably stabilize into ketones after a while, so you have consistent energy. And I would say most of these people are not avid athletes or exercisers, they're just normal people, from what I witnessed, that are just going on the diet, and so I think that's kind of like the the shine to the apple of it all.
Speaker 1:It's just like. It's almost like the the extremer, like more extreme version of keto. Really right. I mean with the exception of vegetables and look, we were talking about earlier. The thesis here is that the only sort of like pure food, without any sort of like toxicity or preservatives or anything like that, is just meat. Right, that's the idea.
Speaker 1:That's the theory with carnivore diet is that meat is just the purest thing to have you know, and I think for a lot of people that could make sense, and you go yeah, okay. Now, of course, the problem is with that argument. It's a very bottom-up approach to coming to a conclusion, to drawing conclusions. In other words well, broccoli has whatever the sort of like microtoxins are in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is sulfurs and sulfurics, yeah, so broccoli has that and that is toxic, therefore and toxicity is is bad.
Speaker 1:Therefore, broccoli must be bad, yeah, but of course it's like well, what level of that is there really in it? What about all the positive things that something like broccoli with really high soluble dietary fiber provides? You're missing the forest to the trees in that example, and but that's sort of the what I meant earlier in the show of like if you've actually taken the time to like understand nutrition in its totality, you're gonna have issue in general with just blindly prescribing a carnivore diet to somebody, right? Yeah, but I think to your point like, listen, like, if you're like extremely overweight and this is the argument we made for keto, and we both neither of us do keto, neither of us would recommend keto necessarily but the argument would be like listen, if you're just not going to do anything else and you're not going to count calories, you're fully on the standard american diet of just like gross processed food. You know what? If this helps you like get away from fries and pizzas and pastries and you do end up losing weight, like there, there probably is quantifiable health benefits. So I I sympathize with people who have done something like a like carnivore or keto, because in my mind the only there's really not that much difference. The the difference, of course, is just no vegetable.
Speaker 2:So in that sense, like keto is probably better no, keto is definitely better and keto has its place again for certain things, but for overall, just like weight loss and.
Speaker 1:But you know I sympathize, I sympathize with people who, let's say you're diabetic, let's say you're pre-diabetic, and let's say you are really overweight and you go on carnivore right and all of a sudden you do feel better because you're just for the first time in however long your body is like metabolizing the amount of food that you're consuming. You're losing weight, maybe your skin clears up, maybe you're sleeping better.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you just don't have any variance in your blood sugar.
Speaker 1:But then you go and get a blood test. The doctor's like, well know you're, so your a1c's are down, your blood levels are down, but your cholesterol is through the roof. It's like you don't. Like I, I sympathize where you finally have done something and that have actually gotten you a result, and now you're being told that it's unhealthy and there's other risk factors. So, like you know, I can understand why that would be hard to like and why you and why you would want to defend what you've done and stick and dig in your heels even more with that. The good news is that you know.
Speaker 2:If that was your case, cholesterol is really easy to treat you know, yeah, and you know again it's like 10 of your cholesterol comes from dietary. You know intervention so it's like if you already have high cholesterol, it's going to be genetic.
Speaker 1:The 10 makes a difference, but fundamentally yeah and it's a person by person, like genetic dependent, right like you're gonna have to be like, have zero issues with a full-blown you know keto or carnivore approach where they eat five eggs a day, hammering 200 grams of fat every day, and they're just fine, you know? And you're going to have another person that, like they, might be at very high risk for heart disease.
Speaker 2:And that's yeah. That's why it's like there's no two. Humans are alike.
Speaker 1:It's impossible. So you know there's definitely like we're not here to just blanketly state that this is unhealthy and you shouldn't do it Like there's obviously some potential for upside and benefit, then you shouldn't do it Like there's obviously some potential for upside.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely I mean I think. Yeah, I think sustained energy levels from not from being in a ketogenic state or having fat as a primary energy source probably feels very good for people and, if you've ever done it, there is a certain mental clarity and sharpness and presence that feels good that probably people aren't used to. And, like you said, the simplicity is there. It's easy.
Speaker 1:You don't used to and, like you said, the simplicity is there, it's easy, you don't have to think it's tasty and if it gets you to lose weight, you know that's, you know that's. Another thing too is like when you look at these meta studies, where they aggregate all these different studies and they track people, you know, for 10, 20, 30 years. The number one risk factor for premature death is just obesity you know, that's the common it's like.
Speaker 1:So another side of that coin is like people. It's like smaller people just tend to live longer. They just do. And so if the trade-off is, you have to get on like cholesterol medicine, but it's a way for you to like get your BMI back down to normal range. Yeah, pros and cons. You know it's not so squeaky clean all the time with health.
Speaker 2:And if that's the way it's got to be for you to just be able to handle it. Then you know what. It's. Not the worst thing. Not the worst thing, maybe you should try a zempic.
Speaker 1:Try that or in this. But the funny thing is is now compared to carnivore diet.
Speaker 2:Like, just do keto in that case, because the issue that we would have with carnivore is that there's no fucking vegetables, vegetables, yeah, and just to be clear, if anybody's not exactly sure, so carnivore is literally only eating animal product, just meats, zero plants, no avocado allowed to drink milk, I believe and cheese, because it's all animal. So dairy is allowed, but otherwise it's just just animals, it's like you know, living on a farm in kazakhstan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and most people these days are just eating like muscle tissue, so it's just like eggs steak. A lot of people don't eat fish. I find a lot of people don't eat chicken. I mean, it's not that you can't, but it tends to. Seemingly they want that fat. Yeah, they circles around pork and beef. They want that fat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they circle around pork and beef. They want that fat. You know that fast energy, right? Yeah, and eggs.
Speaker 2:They do eat a lot of eggs. Eggs are very, very prominent, yeah, so you know it's the lack of vegetables is, yeah, unquestionably why keto would be a better option in that regard, in my opinion, because, yeah, the first is that there's lots of fat-soluble vitamins, or there are a few, but fundamentally, all your other vitamins and minerals that you're going to be looking for are going to be coming from plants.
Speaker 2:So that's something I've wondered about long-term Carnivore diet people is exactly where does some of your micronutrient intake come from if you're not eating any plant whatsoever, because it's like you have your A D? A D and E, d and e and k. I mean there are fat soluble vitamins, but there's like no vitamin c in that's true.
Speaker 2:Beef nope you know there's. No, there's maybe. I mean, I do think there might be some mineral content, but not in the degree that you would get right some type of, like a leafy green or something of that nature. So there's a component where I wonder how that goes long term. And like could you get scurvy? Like, is there any form of vitamin C that comes from carnivore?
Speaker 1:Totally dude and, like you know, the guy who wrote the book the Carnivore Diet Did we have this conversation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we talked about it, yeah.
Speaker 1:So he denounced it now. So he like came out and he's like, I got like, as he was writing the book, started coming down with some, some issues, some some health problems that he later, by the time the book was already out and he's already doing the press tours he had. He's not even doing carnivore anymore because he's he had he was having some real issues. Um, unfortunately I don't care. Off the top of my head, remember what they are, but I mean it's easily googleable. But, um, yeah, the guy fucking wrote the book is like not doing it anymore if that doesn't tell you guys something, you know, I don't know what would.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing there's anecdotal evidence and there's then there's clinical trials, right, and it's like as much as people, as much as like the consumer, just just has this, like it's just so crazy how they just don't trust science. We just live in a weird era where, like we would trust an influencer more than we would trust like science, and it's like guys like these are PhD level. These are people who they got. They don't have a dog in the fight. They're not trying to sell you books, they're just trying to publish research papers. They work for universities.
Speaker 1:Their whole life is dedicated to like human performance and nutrition or whatever, and it turns out that the mortality rate drop-off is for folks who eat over 40 grams of dietary fiber a day is like crazy. Yeah, every every 10 grams of dietary fiber. Fiber you reintroduce, and dietary fiber there's. There's soluble, there's insoluble. Insoluble is stuff that your body just really can't digest, has a place, but you know, there's really nothing that your body, it doesn't ferment in your intestinal system, it doesn't break down, it just kind of like, literally it's like sticks, like baby roughage that just kind of passes through. Yeah, and then there's soluble, which is you get from like fruits and vegetables that ferment and feed the bacteria flora oats and it clears your gut out.
Speaker 1:You know it's like every 10 grams of soluble fiber, dietary fiber you introduce into your diet like increases the chances of you living healthy for by 10. So if you're eating 10 10 grams of fiber a day which probably most people are sub 10 and you bring that up to like 40 grams or 50 grams of dietary fiber a day, you've just like increased the chances of you aging healthy by like 30 or 40, which is massive over the long haul. And just think about, like the rate of of colon cancer with young people right now.
Speaker 2:That's what I was going to say. Yeah, so, like there's this been huge upsurge of colon cancer in, you know, individuals that are like under 40. It's crazy, never before seen. And what they one of the things they equated it to was this increase in carnivore style diets and the removal of vegetables and fruits. And the removal of vegetables and fruits, and what they found is that, like, one of the major things is that it's fiber that actually activates the lining or the epithelial cells in your digestive tract to regenerate and reproduce.
Speaker 1:Interesting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, without basically introducing fiber, the surface cells or the surface lining in your colon, basically just don't regenerate, they go stagnant, degenerate. Yeah, and then that obviously just is a compounding effect that it could eventually lead to cancer.
Speaker 2:So you know, it's just one of those things that by eliminating and there's you know all these, I guess. So it's like leptins are another one that people get all caught up about as one of the anti-nutrients in fruit, and so you know, the idea with the arguments is that plants have these protective mechanisms that are often for insects and predators that might eat them and things like that. So there's like leptins and oxycholates or you know whatever, there's all these compounds that will prevent an insect from eating it, or some type of sublevel poison, Even like sulfur. Like sulfur is a poison, but that's commonly found in broccoli, brussels sprouts, cauliflower, and the argument for carnivore is that all these anti-nutrients in the plants are out to kill us. They block the absorption of this, they disrupt the hormone.
Speaker 2:Here the leptins, you know, prevent the breakdown of this. That and the other and I think one of the things is the dosage of these poisons are some of the things that matters. Right, dosage is the poison. Too much water can kill you. You can drink enough water to die right, the dosage is the poison.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Too much meat can kill you Too much anything.
Speaker 2:So I think there's just a component that the amount that we're ingesting when we eat these plants amount that we're ingesting when we eat these plants, even if they have some ping of a negative effect on our body, are so minuscule comparatively to the positive benefits of the fiber, of the water, of the vitamins, the minerals, all the good things that come along with the fruits and vegetable family. And then there's the thing I don't know like with the sulfuric vegetables, that they actually trigger a poisoning response in your body, but it's so low level that your body then reacts and increases its production of glutathione, which is like this master antioxidant that only your body can make. You can't eat it.
Speaker 1:Now I think they have technology where you can eat it, but you couldn't just eat it and digest it, and as you get older, your glutathione production levels tend to drop, which is why people get more hung over when they drink too much alcohol as they get older, because they just don't have as much so.
Speaker 2:glutathione is like this master. You know chemical in the body and you know a little broccoli gets in there and your body's like, oh shit, quick ramp up the glutathione, so you know.
Speaker 1:It's adaptation response. It's like exercise is one step back it's stress. Yeah, yeah, it's stress, you know. It's like there is a. I read a post and it was like imagine something that like increased cortisol levels skyrocketed your blood pressure, and they were like listing all these like negative things. Like what if I told you that that was good for you and it's exercise, it's exercise.
Speaker 2:It's exercise.
Speaker 1:Right, you know, because you introduce a stressor and then our bodies adapt. But again, the dosage is the poison. If you train three hours a day, every day, you'd you'd get rhabdo and you'd have to rush the emergency room and you might die. If you take too much of the toxins out of broccoli and again isolated it, you'd kill you exactly, but like a little micro dose of whatever sulfur just gives you gives your body an adaptational response. We, we, we tend to recover better stronger.
Speaker 2:Don't don't swallow a chunk of yellow sulfur mineral. Don't swallow, yeah, like like, who like.
Speaker 1:Who here likes a cup of coffee in the morning? Great, because 100 milligrams of caffeine is like perfect. But this much caffeine powder will kill you, like, like, like, a little sack of pure caffeine will kill you. Yeah, it's like you know. So you know we can't this. And this is the issue. This is the problem with, like some you know charismatic influencer who comes on like the you know liver King who just starts preaching this kind of stuff, is that we get kind of transfixed by it and it's just amazing how many people will just believe that because of how convincing the person is but it's like I understand that that humans, our minds, default to being very binary.
Speaker 1:Good or bad, right or wrong, yes or no, the it, but life is a continuum life is a spectrum and it's like how much? Uh, you know, if you have a few broccoli sprigs in your salad, like that is not a dosage that's going to kill you.
Speaker 2:You have a half a plate of broccoli. There's just there.
Speaker 1:It's just being a little bit more growth mindset oriented. Just thinking a little bit more deeply about this, you know, could this help some people? Yes, I think so, the downside being, you know, if you're not getting dietary fiber, you're probably not going to be pooping as often. And if the whole point of avoiding vegetables was to avoid the toxins, well, guess what's going to happen in your colon if you're not pooping enough. That's like if you want to detox, get regular with your poop, yeah, 100% Right. But if it's just sitting there for days and days because you're just eating nothing but fatty meats and cheeses and there's no fiber Bleaching back into you.
Speaker 1:It's just holding in your colon. It doesn't take a proctologist to know that that's probably not a good thing. We got to keep that moving baby.
Speaker 2:That's the primary excretory system here.
Speaker 1:There's your detox and so it's just to button it up. It's like if that style of life and dieting makes sense to you, then at least just go the less extreme version of it and do like a keto or the less extreme version of that and do like a paleo if it just. If you just need like hard parameters and just like you don't want to count calories, you don't want to weigh food, I get it, that's fine. But the thing is is there's other ways to get the whatever benefits this has? Yes, you can get the same benefits without eliminating things that we know scientifically conclusive that are also beneficial, that are so important to your longevity meta studies showing leafy, green and fibrous vegetables increasing lifespan, decreasing body composition.
Speaker 2:Like it's just there's no way around.
Speaker 1:It, no way around it. Yeah, eat your salads, eat your veggies. Go ahead, hammer it down. You want the steak, steak, the steak, whatever.
Speaker 2:Just get a big, big ass salad in there every day, and it's also I mean like outside of, like being like an emperor or something in the past, like the ability to be a carnivore, diet in in in the classic sense that we're doing it now. It wasn't available until of this crazy surplus. I mean it's like like the inuit, only ate seal and seal blubber, because that's all there was to eat they. They lived on a.
Speaker 1:They lived in igloos, yeah like an ice sheet, so that's literally the only thing they could eat.
Speaker 2:So they were kind of carnivores by necessity. But like there weren't many. I mean, obviously meat was always revered, but there wasn't this ability to just eat six eggs and a steak and bacon every meal.
Speaker 1:That's a luxury baby. Yeah, that's a huge luxury Reserve for kings. Yes, exactly so. It's just a very modern application of circumstance that somehow like oh yeah, it's bringing it back, bring it back to the good old days, like what that never happened, like for for 99.99 of human existence, we were fucking starving we were eating them, tubers. Let me tell you eating bark, yeah, you know, grasses and I was like we were just, we were animals starving out in the pasture.
Speaker 2:You know, it's amazing to look at like like wild broccoli, or wild broccoli is a man-made vegetable, but like wild asparagus or like. Look at these like old versions of the common fruits and vegetables we eat. It's like an old apple, like apples used to be. These like tiny, almost like crab apple things. Like asparagus. Was this like little twig looking thing?
Speaker 1:you know, we've just bred. Now we got these like stocks of asparagus that are like that big so yeah, things are different everything's everything's processed, everything 12 eggs a day, no problem, everything has been genetically modified.
Speaker 1:like you know. I'm sorry, guys, but like you can go and get a farm out in oregon, grow all your own stuff, but if you're going to participate in society, we just have to like let go of this idea that we're like somehow getting back to like our primal ancestral roots. It's like I think that ship sailed. I'm sorry, but you know.
Speaker 2:As you ask, ai, the benefits of the carnivore diet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how do I get off the grid and live a more primal life? Ai, exactly, siri, it's like. Well, I think this is fundamentally flawed. Uh, okay, team, so that was 49, correct coach's corner. Uh, hope you guys enjoyed it. Let us know in the comments if you did and we'll check you all next time. Another episode, peace out, bye.