In the Grand Scheme Of Fitness With Justin and Ethan
Welcome to "Coach's Corner with Justin and Ethan," where your health and fitness journey gets a simplified makeover! Join Justin and Ethan, two seasoned coaches with a combined 30 years of experience, as they navigate the labyrinth of health and fitness, unraveling myths from facts to guide you towards success.
In each episode, we dive headfirst into the vast world of well-being, shedding light on weight loss, dissecting diet fads, exploring diverse workout styles, and fine-tuning the often overlooked aspect of mindset. Our mission is to demystify the complexities surrounding health, making your journey not only effective but enjoyable.
Get ready for a lively and informative conversation that feels like a chat with your favorite fitness buddies. Justin and Ethan draw upon their extensive experience, sharing real-life stories from working with thousands of clients. No stone is left unturned as they break down what really works and what's just another fitness fad.
Whether you're a fitness enthusiast or a beginner taking the first steps toward a healthier lifestyle, "Coache's Corner" is your go-to source for practical insights, debunking myths, and embracing the joy of the journey. Tune in for a fun and engaging exploration of the truth behind health and fitness, and let Justin and Ethan be your trusted guides to a healthier, happier you!
In the Grand Scheme Of Fitness With Justin and Ethan
The Truth About Detoxes and Your Body
What if you could achieve lasting health without ever needing to detox again? In this eye-opening episode, we tackle the myths and misconceptions surrounding detox diets and quick-fix health solutions. You'll discover why our bodies are already equipped with efficient systems like the lymphatic and digestive systems to naturally eliminate toxins. We also discuss why so many people are drawn to extreme methods like juice cleanses and colonics, and how these methods often appeal to those struggling with consistent healthy habits. By sharing personal insights and experiences, we aim to provide you with practical, everyday steps for sustainable health.
Why do extreme weight loss methods like bone broth cleanses and juice fasts seem effective but fail to offer long-term results? Listen in as we compare these unsustainable approaches to the slow and steady process of saving money. We'll emphasize the importance of gradual lifestyle changes, including regular exercise, balanced nutrition, and proper hydration. The discussion highlights the pitfalls of drastic changes without support, which can cause unnecessary stress and disrupt your daily life. We'll convince you that small, consistent efforts truly are the key to achieving your health and fitness goals.
Ever wondered why you feel bloated or gain weight after a takeout meal? We dive into the hidden impact of high sodium content in restaurant food, using various ethnic cuisines as examples. Cooking at home can significantly lower your sodium intake, and we'll share personal anecdotes that highlight this truth. Additionally, we explore the benefits of a low FODMAP diet as a practical alternative to trendy detoxes, helping you make informed dietary decisions. Ultimately, we'll drive home the point that mastering the basics through consistent, small steps is the true path to long-term health and wellness.
and welcome to episode 29, I believe it is 29 of coaches.
Speaker 1:Corner with justin ethan. I'm coach justin and I am coach ethan. We are your trusted advisors of all things health and fitness. Just a little background in case you guys don't know us Maybe this is the first episode. We have been doing this for a very long time 20 years or so. Each, each, each, so combined almost 40 years of coaching people in weight loss and nutrition, and we've owned gyms together. We each have our own business at this point, working with people in person, online, you name it and so we're here today to talk a little bit about detoxing and what the hell detoxing even means if it even means anything and like why one might get to the point in their life where they feel like they need to detox, and is what they're actually detoxing or what they're doing having any sort of long-term benefit?
Speaker 2:yeah, the detox. The detox diet especially, I think, is the particular angle of like do you need to do a detox diet? Is a detox diet a good avenue or route to actually achieve any type of sustainable weight loss? And just what are the overall kind of like you're saying perspectives of just why are you detoxing? What is the purpose? What are the values? Is there value? What's really happening?
Speaker 1:so I guess let's start with just like, why someone might get to the point in their life where they feel as though they need to detox and you know what they're hoping to achieve from said detox. So I don't know. I mean, listen, I'll say, if you don't understand how our body actually works and if you don't understand, just like, the fact that eating healthy food and exercising is already kind of, you know, clearing out the system in some way, then I can see how it's alluring to want to believe that there's something more powerful than just good daily habits and routines that can somehow, like almost like, push a reset button on our bodies or something like that, right.
Speaker 2:Right, it's like a car wash for the body in a lot of ways. Like I think about it, it's like we have this perception that we've clogged the pipes and gotten dirty and you can kind of run it through the car wash and you come out all squeaky clean and this kind of acute short process is like oh, hoor, hooray I've kind of fixed things up and made things better, right like uh.
Speaker 1:Like when your internet router starts slowing down and you just go in there and just push the little reset button, hold it down for 10 seconds. Plug it back in yeah, um, but you made a good point when we were getting ready for this call of just like there's no other system. What was your point? Again, there's no other system.
Speaker 2:So basically, I think the idea that, like going into a detox diet or a cleanse, doesn't inherently create a new system or a new process in your body of elimination that doesn't already exist process in your body of elimination that doesn't already exist. So, fundamentally, it's like your body is very good at eliminating pollutants and toxins out of your body already and those processes are already happening all the time. Now, you know, I think there are varying degrees of like efficiency based on, like your hydration level, how much movement you're doing and you know fiber and other things of that nature. But fundamentally it's not like doing a detox or cleanse kind of switches on some process or mode in your body that's not already happening, you know.
Speaker 1:Totally yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, like our lymphatic system, our digestive system, our everything is already working to move out toxins, yes, and it's like, yeah, there's so many excretory processes I mean our excretion, sweating, digestion, I mean you know, and then, like you said, lymph, like all that.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know it's primarily through like pooping and peeing and sweat that we remove all these things. But, like you said, the lymphatic system is draining all the metabolic waste and cell debris and, you know, your liver is filtering your blood and your kidneys are also filtering and so it's like there's a lot of that going on. Now, you know, I do want to say the caveat doesn't mean I don't think that there aren't compounds or chemicals like forever, chemicals that are found from plastics, fragrances and dyes that can't get in your body. But even with that, that being said, in our modern day, you know, urban lifestyle, it's still the fact that your body is doing its best to eliminate and remove these things. Already it's happening. You know it's not. You can't turn on some magic switch to all of a sudden just to be like, hey, here you go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know it's for me it's like when I hear people going into like a detox or any sort of like juice cleanse or like not a colonoscopy, what's the thing that people do? Colonic, colonic, all these things. It's interesting because it's like these are also people who tend to struggle with consistency, like if I can think of three people who are at the top of my head this is absolutely anecdotal and I'll admit that I don't have any sort of research on this to back it up, but just have been in this world for so long and the fitness and nutrition and health and weight loss. And people will tell me, oh, I'm going to get a colonic or I'm doing this 10-day. And they want my validation to be like oh, yeah, hell, yeah, good job, because they think that that's health. They think that like, oh, this health professional, I'm going to tell him what I'm doing expecting me to be like oh, I love those man, I get one every. I do one every year, in fact.
Speaker 1:I was like why? And they look at me like, well, what do you mean? Why? And I realize how mainstream it is and how normalized doing these sort of juice cleanses and detoxes have become over the last generation. But the thing that I've also observed is that the people who tell me this are the ones that would benefit by just getting their nutrition and their exercise consistently, like all the things that they're hoping to accomplish from a juice cleanse or a detox is actually the product of just being really consistent with just some basic exercise and nutrition principles, because if you've gotten to a point in your life where you feel like you need to detox because you feel like poisoned or gross, it probably just means your, your lifestyle is like is shit, you know right, that's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 2:You asked that question of like why person? It's like one. They probably got overweight, probably have like low energy, they probably just like feel like shit all the time. And you know, I think to what you just said there that like realistically, that's going to come from a stacking of just poor lifestyle decisions. If you're just like eating like crap, you're not getting good sleep, you're not hydrated, you're not exercising in any capacity, that's going to start to catch up with you and eventually you're going to feel like you're pumping sludge through your veins. You're just going to feel bogged down, you're going to feel heavy. You're just moving your body, especially if you're overweight. But even if you don't exercise, it's just going to feel laborious, you know. And so I think it's like those times and you know, the thing is is like I'll give some credit to like the notion of a reset.
Speaker 2:I think sometimes there is like a mental or psychological, emotional component to kind of just like taking a moment cleaning the slate and using that to kind of like get back on the horse to then make consistent lifestyle decisions. But the overarching truth is that it is the consistent lifestyle decisions that are what is important and I think some people might use like the jumpstart to do it. But the fundamental bottom line is that if it only lasts the week, or you jumpstart, your behavior changes and they last for three weeks and you kind of return to maybe eating processed foods or not cooking at home, not getting any exercise in and not getting good sleep, fundamentally you're going to start to feel like shit again and that little itch is going to come in because because the truth is, if you're eating out all the time or you're, say, you're eating processed foods and then you kind of go to this extreme situation where you're eliminating most foods you eat, because most of the time you're either fasting or doing a bone broth or just doing some type of like green shake you know it, very, very limited calories. Normally you're going to feel better in a way because you're going to have this kind of like one. You're not going to be focused on all this food. Your day is going to get really simplified and I think in the very first moment you might have like some clarity and a burst of energy because your body's kind of running off adrenaline and you're kind of regulating your blood sugar. But I think ultimately you're going to find that you also will crash and you're not going to have any energy. So you're not going to probably be exercising because you're not going to be consuming many, if any, calories.
Speaker 2:And it's just one of those things where I think the appeal is going to potentially make you feel better because you're going to kind of streamline your life for a short amount of time. So if you were to do like a week-long juice cleanse, I think by the end of the week you might start getting cranky, you might start feeling the lack of energy because you're only consuming a few hundred calories. But I think for the first three days there's the potential for well, now my life's streamlined. I'm not going out to dinner, I'm not drinking, you know. All these things are removed. So maybe it's like you know what fuck it? I'm going to go to bed at nine o'clock because I don't got anything else going on and I'm hungry. You know what I mean. And so it's like now these these pieces are falling into place and you kind of start to feel better and just getting to bed on time and eating some clean, whole foods in the first place you'd probably get a lot of the same benefit that would actually stick around, you know.
Speaker 1:And I would just wonder, like all that's true and I totally like, I think it's more psychological than physical anything right, like physiologically you're not going to like change much in a week, you know, but I think the psychological commitment of I'm doing this thing, like this perceived sort of like short-term sacrifice for a perceived long-term payoff, but I guess that's where I go in and go.
Speaker 1:But is there really any sort of long-term path? Because everything you just said was valid and true and I understand, like, this desire for, for some sort of structure in people's lives, especially when they've gotten to the point where they feel as though they need to detox from something. Right, but, but what's, what's after that? Because typically these, these are the type of folks that have probably done this before and their behavior set has gotten them to the point where they feel like they need to detox from something, just repeat this vicious cycle indefinitely, where we burn through six, 12 months of shitty lifestyle behavior and then detox and then feel good because there's probably more placebo than anything scientific. That's happening, you know, like, but the placebo effect is as good as any effect. So maybe they have. But yeah, I mean that's, that's no, I'm with it.
Speaker 2:You know, it's one of those things too that, like, there's a fair amount of actual research, because I was looking into a little bit but fundamentally, like any weight there, there is the opportunity to lose some weight in a three-day, four-day, five-day bone broth plans, juice cleanse fast, like, if your scale is going to move, but realistically, if you don't engage in different behaviors, you is going to move, but realistically, if you don't engage in different behaviors, you're going to gain the weight back. It's just like a fairly certain fact. And so, you know, I have clients that do it. I know other people that do it and they've had a bad few weeks. They were drinking a lot of wine and they've had birthdays and parties and they're like, all right, I'm going to do a bone broth, five day bone broth cleanse. And they come back and they're like, oh, I lost seven pounds or six pounds or whatever it is in that week and like, besides, a lot of that being like, your carbohydrates leaving your body and the water that's associated with them and that weight not actually reflecting your body fat percentage.
Speaker 2:You know, it's one of those things that, like, that probably makes them feel better, but that weight loss is extremely temporary, and so I think, just like, fundamentally as a whole, just like using a detox or a cleanse as a weight loss tool, is just not, it's just.
Speaker 2:It's just. It's just the coolest thing Because, like, one of the things is like the level of effort is really high and this was something that we were when we were kind of pre discussing about the show of you know, like what's going to your life more and what's going to cause like more kind of chaos or more difficulty, more hardship in general, right, and so, yes, in one hand, there might be so much lack of structure that a person doing a detox or a cleanse creates so much structure that it's like you're caged up or you're put in the lane and it's comforting and it feels like you're accomplishing something. But it's like you were using the analogy of like saving money and it's like if you were to put a hundred dollars away every month for three years, versus like dumping your entire salary for two months into savings, like what's going to be more disruptive to your life and what what's ultimately going to have a better outcome Now, like no granted.
Speaker 2:In that instance you might have to save money in a short amount of time, but the body doesn't really work that way. It's not the same and you know. It's like, fundamentally, the amount of effort is high and the amount of support you generally have is almost zero, unless you're working one-on-one with a coach, which most people aren't, especially for like a detox or cleanse, or you're like part of some like online group, which most people aren't. So you're kind of interjecting this like extremely high effort, high, kind of what's the word?
Speaker 2:I'm looking for turbulent behavior or thing in your life with no external support and it's like fundamentally, what's going to cause more chaos and disruption to your patterns and your homeostasis than like kind of starving yourself or being really, really hungry and being cranky, not having energy to exercise or do your job or play your kids. You know, it's like fundamentally it's just like a, it's like a challenge, it's like this very difficult thing, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1:And it's sort of like when you think of people who, like people who are more consistent with their exercise, more consistent with their nutrition, their sleep, their hydration, like what would they need to detox for? Right, like they're, they're already kind of there. They wouldn't, they wouldn't need to do that, they wouldn't need to disrupt their lives. And I say that because then the opposite is true. Right, where the people who do a cleanse or detox or bone broth, whatever they're, usually their lives are chaotic up to that point, but just in a different direction. So it's like this crazy, like volatile swing from one end of the spectrum to the other. That is disruptive. But it's like the goal is to be better, to be healthy, to lose weight maybe, or to just feel better. But I guess, to elaborate on your analogy or the one that we talked about earlier of just like the savings account, it's like, you know, if you take an entire month's salary and put it all in your retirement account, well, now you're broke and now you got to put your credit cards out and now you got to like overcompensate for that aggressive thing versus just a tiny little bit of your income every month over time. Everybody would agree that that's the appropriate way to go. Right, everyone on planet earth would be like yes, do that.
Speaker 1:But somehow, with nutrition and exercise and weight loss, it's like we just got bought into this, like this violent approach to it where it's like 75 hard, I'm going to sign up for a marathon. I just got to give myself you know a reason and it's just like man, yeah, but 20 years later, like one marathon in your life, one detox in your life, one tough mudder, means nothing. It means nothing Like just because you were 110% for like a moment, a sliver in time. It's like a tortoise and the hare versus just bit by bit every day, figuring out how you can make this a much more sustainable approach in your life which is going to get you to the result that you want ultimately. But, like, people just have such a hard time with wrapping their minds around or even believing that it's not a silver bullet, it's a thousand little BBs, and the little BBs come in the shape of the 20-minute walk that you ritualize every day, the Sunday meal, grocery shopping.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cooking your own food right.
Speaker 1:You know, like getting 10 or 10 different 15 minute recipes on rotation, you can just, you know, quickly throw together for yourself, like those times you know like yeah, I mean I got a guy right now that I'm working with.
Speaker 1:It's crazy. He's 50 years old, um, and always has been like a martial artist and an athlete. His whole life always had a six-pack, always used to be super lean and then, like this last few years, he's just like put on like 20 pounds out of nowhere. And so he's working with me. He's a disciplined guy, he's a regimented guy and I'm looking at his stuff and I mean we've got his calories dialed in. He's doing his walk every day. He's hitting the weights four days a week, like I had him down to 1,800 calories and some days he wouldn't even hit all 1,800, and he's eating clean food but the weight's just staying on him and upon further investigation, I mean he has not lost a pound in four months, which is crazy.
Speaker 1:It's like such an anomaly. Never. Yeah, but he doesn't sleep. So puts the kids down at nine and then he's like then it's just like me time from like 10 am to two, three, eight, three, eight, three. 10 pm to like two, three am, and he's like then I get up at six, then I'm like man. So best case scenario getting three, four hours of sleep at night. He's like yeah yeah pretty much.
Speaker 1:I'm like, bro, like you know, the one thing, the one thorn that will disrupt you, could be perfect and everything else. But if you are just bagging your sleep, it's like just you're just never gonna happen. So it's like go ahead, detox for 10 days, go ahead, go ahead, sign up for a marathon Detox. But like, fundamentally man, like if your sleep sucks and you're eating fucking Chinese takeout four nights a week, you're not exercising, you're forgetting to drink water.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly, I think the detox diet that I think would be worthwhile is one that removes highly processed, high-fat, sugary foods. That's fundamentally the thing that I think it's like in a nutshell, in terms of thinking about food and removing things to make your body healthier and happier. It's just, you know, removing highly processed, high fat, high sugar foods. And again, it's not to say you can never have a donut, but that, like, if you're eating those kinds of foods consistently, that's probably going to be the thing that's going to make you feel the worst over a long, long haul. If you're eating whole foods, single source ingredient, proteins and fruits and vegetables and your own homemade recipes, the likelihood of you like feeling like shit pending your sleep and it's like it's not going to be there in the same way, you know, but if you're eating, takeout and fast food and you know, just processed cheeses, and just you know it's just.
Speaker 2:Those are the things that are going to really stack up and make you feel like crap in the in the end.
Speaker 1:In my opinion, you know, yeah, exactly, it's like the sodium bombs. Like we, we went out and, like you know, we just obviously flew into Ohio, lovely Ohio, at Tanya's parents' house, and you know we got in kind of late and so it was just like her mom like ordered thai food for us. Delicious, so good, but but sure shit, you know, this morning I woke up I'm like, oh, oh, man, oh, like you know, you load up on any what I've realized, any ethnic food. Right, and I say that as somebody who loves mexican food, I love chinese, I love it all. But I'll be the first one to tell you I've just seen it If you have Thai food, if you have Chinese, if you have pizza, if you have Mexican, food.
Speaker 2:I think it's just takeout in general, man Takeout in general period.
Speaker 1:But even like sushi, it's just like the salt bomb. It's just you can't get away from it. And that's what makes people just feel puffy and inflamed, and then they think they associate that with, like a detox, you know?
Speaker 2:Oh, I mean, yeah Well, and then you said it. I mean because that's the thing it's like, if and if you start just drinking a tremendous amount of liquid and extremely low calorie, your body is going to get to like kind of like release all the salts and you know, get rid of all the kind of extra fluids and inflammation that's in there. I know, get rid of all the the kind of extra fluids and inflammation that's in there. I mean it's 100. I mean I just found, like when you cook so I love to cook, I cook all the time and so it's like, even when I'm cooking to make food taste good, the amount of salt that I put in, I'm like, oh man, that seems like a lot of salt. If you're in a restaurant, the amount of salt that they use is flabbergasting. It is just unreal to see in the sauce, on the meat, in the veggies they are just dumping it on and like I think people don't realize.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's over yeah, no matter.
Speaker 2:And it doesn't matter. I mean like, no doubt, like saltier foods, like chinese food, for example, that has a lot of salty sauces and soy sauce based sauces, but anything, man, absolutely anything, is gonna be so high in salt. So, for example, even last night so I'm weighing in at 195, 195.1 two days ago, or yesterday first thing in the morning. So then last night we're sitting down for dinner. I have a homemade fish taco, so I've got cod seasoned in myself. A homemade corn tortilla super easy to make, you know a homemade like greek yogurt dressing. I have that. But then amanda got to take home some fried chicken, some jolly bee, which is like a filipino fried chicken, yeah, from from work. And so we split that it was a leg and a thigh and some mashed potatoes with gravy little container maps on the grave.
Speaker 2:I got to eat the little thigh and it was a small thigh. Then I got two bites of the leg and then we split the mashed potatoes with gravy. Little container mashed potatoes with gravy. I got to eat the little thigh. It was a small thigh. Then I got two bites of the leg and then we split the mashed potatoes with the gravy. If the mashed potatoes and gravy is probably what did it. The amount of salt. But like I weighed in three pounds heavier this morning and I mean my day was light on food, like I was going to bed hungry because I just didn't eat that much food, you know what I mean. Like I had like a yogurt, like a yogurt cheese, seed mango and then like a square meal and then that meal for my whole day and so, but I gained three pounds in a night and I was like wow, I jumped on the scale today.
Speaker 2:I was like 198. And I was like, oh shit, Okay.
Speaker 1:And I thought about it and I was shit, okay, and I thought about it and I was like, without question, it was the jolly bee, you know, and we're talking such a small portion, totally, yeah, and like that's. The thing is like the average person eats that or some version of that and they think not bad little chicken, some mashed potatoes, like what's so wrong with that?
Speaker 1:yeah, like, oh, my portions weren't that big, like I limited myself to my portions, which calorically is valid, but like, but yeah, but still, it's like it has nothing to do with calories and the body fat, it's just the, it's sodium, man, that's really what it is. It's like you know we're talking five, six thousand milligrams in a day if you're eating out versus like if you make your own food, only getting maybe maybe 2 000 milligrams yeah, 2 500 maybe, depending, but I mean, you know it's crazy because I had a guy who couldn't help himself.
Speaker 1:He was just like constantly going through carl's jr and like fast food and the. The benefit of that was that when he would enter his food into the, the meal tracker app, because carl's jr or whoever they will go like, they have their sodium levels kind of listed and and so I would see, I'm like, and he'd eat out fast food twice in a in a day sometimes, and so it'd be like, you know, fat, like carl's jr breakfast sandwich or burger king breakfast and then carl's jr for lunch, you know, and I'm like, bro, bro, 7,000 milligrams, it's like three, four X the daily recommended amount.
Speaker 2:Oh man, I'm like.
Speaker 1:I'm like, yeah, that's why you shot up five pounds in the night. And so I think that it's like this is, this is what happens, this is this is why people they don't think that what they're doing is bad and and bad's a hard label. It's not like, listen, sometimes you just got to eat Like and bad's a hard label. It's not like listen, sometimes you just got to eat. Like, sometimes you got to do takeout, like last night, like, what are we going to do? You got in late, like it's just you have to do it and that's okay. But it's just more of understanding, like if this becomes the norm, where you know, ah, we're tired, let's just order in. Ah, we're tired, let feels harmless, it feels normal.
Speaker 1:But the reality is, is that you're sitting there with your face feels like it's a water balloon, that your scale keeps climbing and you're just like you feel lethargic and you're not. You're waking up in the morning all thirsty because you're so and it's. It's not a detox that's going to fix this. It is. It is just the fact that, like, you have to get in the driver's seat of your food and you have to make better choices. So what I would recommend is, if you want to fucking detox? Go, fuck, go low fodmap for a couple weeks? Yeah, like, if, if you're, if you just need this like rigidity in your mind, the fuck a bone broth, fuck a juice cleanse. It's going to leave you with zero tangible benefit and skill in the long run. The difference with the fodmap, though, is like now, which, for people who don't know, it's essentially what is that?
Speaker 1:yeah, it's an elimination right. So essentially what we're doing is we're looking at known foods that typically cause some sort of allergy, like nightshades, gluten, dairy, those those like the big ticket ones and you just simplify your food. But the reason why the low fodmap would be so beneficial for someone who feels as though they're at a point in their life they need a detox or something is that it's going to leave you with a real skill set and it's going to give you tons of awareness afterwards. You so you eliminate everything.
Speaker 1:Basically, just you're eating super lean, clean proteins and and, like you know, like like simple foods for a few weeks, and then the idea is you systematically bring back gluten and dairy, one at a time in isolation, so there's no other variables that can mess up, and you just see, okay I'm, my body is now pure, because I've basically only had low fodmap food for two or three weeks and now I bring back in dairy.
Speaker 2:So no other variable no other variable.
Speaker 1:I just bring back dairy and you see, now did you shoot up?
Speaker 1:do you feel bloated and puffy and like more mucus yeah, cool, now you know you probably have some sort of intolerance to lactose. You can put that on like the don't eat list or eat with caution list, and then you give yourself a few days clear it again. Then bring back another thing like gluten. Oh, I eat bread and pasta and I felt totally fine. Great, now we know. And the idea is you just kind of assemble your own list of things that are good and healthy for you and like, don't disrupt your system too much. But the beautiful thing about that is you just immediately will feel better. You will then have tons of crazy awareness on what's working for your body and what doesn't, and then you'll you'll just understand, like, okay, like, if we order, if we have pasta, like I, I'll understand that the reason why I'm puffy and bloated the next day isn't because I need to detox, it's because I have some sort of irritation with gluten, because I've tested it Right.
Speaker 2:And you can make that educated decision. It's like it's just happening on understanding foods that are kind of irritant to you but you aren't necessarily allergic. Well, at least you now know that eating them kind of comes with some type of sidecar of experience that you can expect and navigate without it being like, oh, why can't? I think today or you know, I didn't sleep very well it's like, oh. And also back to the salt. You know I find that, like when I eat a really salty meal, my digestion is crap, like the times that I eat a fairly sized meal and then it just sits in my stomach forever. I always find it's because, like dude, I saw, like I noticed it was like chipotle.
Speaker 2:I haven't eaten chipotle in many years at this point, but I remember when I used to eat chipotle.
Speaker 2:I get like a chipotle bowl and I'll kind of go at it and eat most of it till I was full and I would just like that shit would just sit in my stomach and I think I'm like it's all kind of whole foods, right, it's just like meat and beans and cheese, but like even the cheese I wouldn't even often get the cheese even and so I'll be like what's going on like why is this not digesting?
Speaker 2:And then I eventually started to correlate like if I was also already a little bit dehydrated, it would be even worse. There's only like once I started drinking water. But it's just like those high salt foods especially depending on your hydration level, already it can be very hard to digest and assimilate, and so I think it's also like if you're experiencing digestive issues and you happen to be eating out or eating high salt foods, that's just another thing to consider. It's like, yeah, do you would a detox aid in the sense of, you know, removing all that salty food? But it's like I think you know. It's just that awareness is key, because it's not to say I don't eat like a philly cheesesteak sometimes.
Speaker 1:I just know that if I do that, that shit's gonna sit my stomach for a hot minute and I'm probably gonna have like a fucking rock in my belly and that's gonna be that for sure you know, dude, I mean like whenever we order any sort of takeout, and sometimes with the same way, like the other night, like it was a Friday, we both had a crazy week, and we're like you know what? We're just going to order a fucking pizza and we're going to lay down in the guest room and watch TV and we're just like yeah.
Speaker 1:And we both full well knew the consequences of that decision. Yes, and fair enough. We, we ordered Dominoes, we housed it, it was delicious, and the next morning we were both up like two and a half pounds puffy, just like, oh man. And the thing is is that you don't realize how shitty food like that makes you feel until you abstain from eating it for a while. Right, because if you're always eating it, our bodies are pretty tough. You know, our bodies are pretty resilient. Yeah, we leather up, you know exactly. But when you pull away from it for a while and you eat clean and you have like a big pizza or a big gut bomb, like a burrito, you're just like, oh, I feel awful, oh my.
Speaker 1:God you know. So the detox is like isn't the right way to describe it. It's just giving your body a break from eating like shit, so that way you can, you know, deflame yeah you know, process some of that sodium out. Yeah, get some inflammation out of your system from all the, from all the sodium and and shit and process foods, yeah, just like the higher.
Speaker 2:You know, I think, and I think that's really what it is. It's like you're not necessarily really detoxing, you're just kind of taking a breather, and again it's like they, you know that that might make you feel better, maybe it's a good little reset. But that, fundamentally, if it's always those extremes of like do whatever I want, pay no attention, do a serious elimination, restriction form of, you know, dieting or period of life, that's just not. It's just it's just not going to benefit you in the long run. You know it's just not going to do it. And like I was, you know, there there's conversations to be had about certain herbs and certain things that, like, directly affect your lungs and help your lungs clear. And you know, milk thistle definitely aids in repair of the liver.
Speaker 1:That's like a plant, like that's been scientifically proven it reduces inflammation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's like again. So it's like people are listening to this and gotten this far. It's like it's not to say that there aren't plants and herbs and behaviors that can aid the body and aid certain organs and aid certain systems. But I think that this, the fundamental thing that we're trying to say, is that, like you can't, your body is already detoxing. Giving it a break will probably help you feel better in some capacity, but that really does come down to the daily behaviors and, like Justin said, it's like if you run a marathon once in your life, but it was 30 years ago, you're not going to be in the best shape and our body has to be participated with it on a consistent basis, on a daily basis, in order to live our best lives, to be as healthy as we can be for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, exactly it, it's, it's. It's the unfortunate truth that there is no magic pill for whatever, whatever benefit, milk, thistle or turmeric or all these things.
Speaker 1:It's like if you're throwing down fucking takeout and a bottle of wine every night, like bro, you're missing the forest, the trees here, you know like For sure it is marginal benefit at the top. It's like icing on the cake. But the cake has to be just the basics and that's just the hardest thing for people to realize, and I beat this drum so much, but it's just the hardest thing for people to realize, and I, I beat this drum so much, but it's just like I'm sorry. I'm sorry there's not a one word answer for your problem. I'm sorry that there's not just like the one quick fix. It is, it is a series of baby steps, but so no, it's okay, yeah, yeah, well, all right.
Speaker 1:So that was episode 28 or 29, I forget, I think. I believe it's 29 I'm gonna go, my bone broth now yeah all right, go back to your detox teas and uh, we'll check you guys later. Peace out coach's corner. Go on bye.